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On a Limb is a Mechanical Orchard podcast celebrating the quiet, consistent work of managing risks before they become full-blown crises.

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In this episode, host Irene Sandler chats to Logan Allin about the critical state of America's financial IT systems and why he believes this is America's Great Infrastructure Challenge.

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They delve into the challenges of modernizing outdated banking systems, the catastrophic risks associated with legacy technology, and the potential impact of technical debt on financial institutions.

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Logan shares his views on the biggest mistakes banks make when attempting to modernize, the importance of aligned incentivization, and the critical need to move quickly.

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